Why do the Germans do this?

"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69) 03/23/2019 at 03:32 • Filed to: VAG, skoda, audi, Volkswagen, Vw

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Oil filter turned up in pieces, bottom pic reassembled 

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/23/2019 at 03:51

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Cheaper (for them) . Because you do the final assembly. Otherwise they’d have to buy a machine to do it...

jimz > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/23/2019 at 04:05

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Because the “German Engineering” philosophy is “design as many potential failure modes into the product as possible yet still have it work.”

Seriously, I have to believe a key performance indicator for them is how many unnecessary parts they  can use or how needlessly over-complicated they can make things.

Engineering is not about designing complicated devices.

FSI > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/23/2019 at 04:05

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Never had any problems with Bosch filters;)

But at least oil f ilters on most VAG cars have good accessibility. Changing the oil filter on a Renault Modus is a huge pain in the ass.

pip bip - choose Corrour > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 03/23/2019 at 04:37

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They normally do come assembled

But why do the Germans make it so complicated compared to any other screw on filters 

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/23/2019 at 06:44

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KaWalEeTee

facw > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/23/2019 at 07:14

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I thought the real Germans were into cartridge filters anyway.

pip bip - choose Corrour > facw 03/23/2019 at 07:17

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VAG are just dumb in my opinion. some engine codes use a cartridge yet some use a spin on

multiple different part numbers, it’s bizarre. surely if they sat down and nutted it out they could reduce the number of filters a dealer would need to stock

bhtooefr > FSI 03/23/2019 at 08:06

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Could be an EA189 TDI, where the oil filter is easy to get to... but it’s a trap.

Because you’ll dump oil all over an EGR pipe’s insulation, and have to replace the pipe due to the oil contamination.

Discerning > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/23/2019 at 08:29

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Maybe it’s done to deter diyer’s. VAG likes to engineer their cars in a way to prevent anyone but their techs from working on them.

See: all Audi's ever, 991, 992, etc.

FSI > bhtooefr 03/23/2019 at 08:32

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Nothing brake cleaner won’t clean up;)

J/k, sometimes I really don't know why important things are so badly accessible. 

jimz > FSI 03/23/2019 at 09:16

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a lot of times it’s simply due to an existing engine being stuffed into a different vehicle, and routing/packaging of other subsystems within the space constraints potentially interfering.  at which point you have to determine the trade-off between “how inconveniencing will this be to the customer” and “spend millions of dollars redesigning the engine block to move the oil filter” or “add $500 to the MSRP to pay for an oil filter relocation kit.”

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/23/2019 at 10:04

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Yeah we have like 5 part  numbers on oil filters in 25 years worth of engines. It's great!

404 - User No Longer Available > pip bip - choose Corrour 03/23/2019 at 11:34

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Surprised this isn’t for a Volvo.